diff --git a/include/wlr/types/wlr_seat.h b/include/wlr/types/wlr_seat.h
index 79c592aa..e05bea47 100644
--- a/include/wlr/types/wlr_seat.h
+++ b/include/wlr/types/wlr_seat.h
@@ -24,6 +24,22 @@ struct wlr_seat_client {
 	struct wl_list link;
 };
 
+struct wlr_touch_point {
+	int32_t touch_id;
+	struct wlr_surface *surface;
+	struct wlr_seat_client *client;
+	double sx, sy;
+
+	struct wl_listener surface_destroy;
+	struct wl_listener resource_destroy;
+
+	struct {
+		struct wl_signal destroy;
+	} events;
+
+	struct wl_list link;
+};
+
 struct wlr_seat_pointer_grab;
 
 struct wlr_pointer_grab_interface {
@@ -52,11 +68,12 @@ struct wlr_keyboard_grab_interface {
 struct wlr_seat_touch_grab;
 
 struct wlr_touch_grab_interface {
-	void (*down)(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab, struct wlr_surface *surface,
-			uint32_t time, int32_t touch_id, double sx, double sy);
-	void (*up)(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab, uint32_t time, int32_t touch_id);
-	void (*motion)(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab, uint32_t time, int32_t
-			touch_id, double sx, double sy);
+	void (*down)(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab, uint32_t time,
+			struct wlr_touch_point *point);
+	void (*up)(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab, uint32_t time,
+			struct wlr_touch_point *point);
+	void (*motion)(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab, uint32_t time,
+			struct wlr_touch_point *point);
 	// XXX this will conflict with the actual touch cancel which is different so
 	// we need to rename this
 	void (*cancel)(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab);
@@ -127,18 +144,6 @@ struct wlr_seat_keyboard_state {
 	struct wlr_seat_keyboard_grab *default_grab;
 };
 
-struct wlr_touch_point {
-	int32_t touch_id;
-	struct wlr_surface *surface;
-	struct wlr_seat_client *client;
-	double sx, sy;
-
-	struct wl_listener surface_destroy;
-	struct wl_listener resource_destroy;
-
-	struct wl_list link;
-};
-
 struct wlr_seat_touch_state {
 	struct wlr_seat *seat;
 	struct wl_list touch_points; // wlr_touch_point::link
@@ -414,10 +419,13 @@ void wlr_seat_touch_notify_up(struct wlr_seat *seat, uint32_t time,
 
 /**
  * Notify the seat that the touch point given by `touch_id` has moved. Defers to
- * any grab of the touch device.
+ * any grab of the touch device. The seat should be notified of touch motion
+ * even if the surface is not the owner of the touch point for processing by
+ * grabs.
  */
-void wlr_seat_touch_notify_motion(struct wlr_seat *seat, uint32_t time,
-		int32_t touch_id, double sx, double sy);
+void wlr_seat_touch_notify_motion(struct wlr_seat *seat,
+		struct wlr_surface *surface, uint32_t time, int32_t touch_id, double sx,
+		double sy);
 
 /**
  * Send a touch down event to the client of the given surface. All future touch
@@ -442,7 +450,7 @@ void wlr_seat_touch_send_up(struct wlr_seat *seat, uint32_t time,
 
 /**
  * Send a touch motion event for the touch point given by the `touch_id`. The
- * event will go to the cleint for the surface given in the corresponding touch
+ * event will go to the client for the surface given in the corresponding touch
  * down event. Compositors should use `wlr_seat_touch_notify_motion()` to
  * respect any grabs of the touch device.
  */
diff --git a/rootston/cursor.c b/rootston/cursor.c
index 863267b6..eff81104 100644
--- a/rootston/cursor.c
+++ b/rootston/cursor.c
@@ -261,8 +261,8 @@ void roots_cursor_handle_touch_motion(struct roots_cursor *cursor,
 	double sx, sy;
 	view_at(desktop, lx, ly, &surface, &sx, &sy);
 
-	if (surface == point->surface) {
-		wlr_seat_touch_notify_motion(cursor->seat->seat, event->time_msec,
+	if (surface) {
+		wlr_seat_touch_notify_motion(cursor->seat->seat, surface, event->time_msec,
 			event->slot, sx, sy);
 	}
 }
diff --git a/types/wlr_data_device.c b/types/wlr_data_device.c
index 741ed556..462320e0 100644
--- a/types/wlr_data_device.c
+++ b/types/wlr_data_device.c
@@ -527,15 +527,14 @@ wlr_pointer_grab_interface wlr_data_device_pointer_drag_interface = {
 };
 
 static void touch_drag_down(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab,
-		struct wlr_surface *surface,
-			uint32_t time, int32_t touch_id, double sx, double sy) {
+		uint32_t time, struct wlr_touch_point *point) {
 	// eat the event
 }
 
 static void touch_drag_up(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab, uint32_t time,
-		int32_t touch_id) {
+		struct wlr_touch_point *point) {
 	struct wlr_drag *drag = grab->data;
-	if (drag->grab_touch_id != touch_id) {
+	if (drag->grab_touch_id != point->touch_id) {
 		return;
 	}
 
@@ -547,11 +546,11 @@ static void touch_drag_up(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab, uint32_t time,
 }
 
 static void touch_drag_motion(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab, uint32_t time,
-		int32_t touch_id, double sx, double sy) {
+		struct wlr_touch_point *point) {
 	struct wlr_drag *drag = grab->data;
 	if (drag->focus && drag->focus_client && drag->focus_client->data_device) {
 		wl_data_device_send_motion(drag->focus_client->data_device, time,
-			wl_fixed_from_double(sx), wl_fixed_from_double(sy));
+			wl_fixed_from_double(point->sx), wl_fixed_from_double(point->sy));
 	}
 }
 
diff --git a/types/wlr_seat.c b/types/wlr_seat.c
index d2b9cfb6..80b9a7c3 100644
--- a/types/wlr_seat.c
+++ b/types/wlr_seat.c
@@ -300,20 +300,21 @@ static const struct wlr_keyboard_grab_interface default_keyboard_grab_impl = {
 	.cancel = default_keyboard_cancel,
 };
 
-static void default_touch_down(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab,
-		struct wlr_surface *surface, uint32_t time, int32_t touch_id, double sx,
-		double sy) {
-	wlr_seat_touch_send_down(grab->seat, surface, time, touch_id, sx, sy);
+static void default_touch_down(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab, uint32_t time,
+		struct wlr_touch_point *point) {
+	wlr_seat_touch_send_down(grab->seat, point->surface, time, point->touch_id,
+		point->sx, point->sy);
 }
 
 static void default_touch_up(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab, uint32_t time,
-		int32_t touch_id) {
-	wlr_seat_touch_send_up(grab->seat, time, touch_id);
+		struct wlr_touch_point *point) {
+	wlr_seat_touch_send_up(grab->seat, time, point->touch_id);
 }
 
 static void default_touch_motion(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab,
-		uint32_t time, int32_t touch_id, double sx, double sy) {
-	wlr_seat_touch_send_motion(grab->seat, time, touch_id, sx, sy);
+		uint32_t time, struct wlr_touch_point *point) {
+	wlr_seat_touch_send_motion(grab->seat, time, point->touch_id, point->sx,
+		point->sy);
 }
 
 static void default_touch_cancel(struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab) {
@@ -894,6 +895,7 @@ void wlr_seat_touch_end_grab(struct wlr_seat *wlr_seat) {
 }
 
 static void touch_point_destroy(struct wlr_touch_point *point) {
+	wl_signal_emit(&point->events.destroy, point);
 	wl_list_remove(&point->surface_destroy.link);
 	wl_list_remove(&point->resource_destroy.link);
 	wl_list_remove(&point->link);
@@ -936,6 +938,8 @@ static struct wlr_touch_point *touch_point_create(
 	point->sx = sx;
 	point->sy = sy;
 
+	wl_signal_init(&point->events.destroy);
+
 	wl_signal_add(&surface->events.destroy, &point->surface_destroy);
 	point->surface_destroy.notify = handle_touch_point_surface_destroy;
 	wl_resource_add_destroy_listener(surface->resource,
@@ -971,7 +975,8 @@ void wlr_seat_touch_notify_down(struct wlr_seat *seat,
 		return;
 	}
 
-	grab->interface->down(grab, surface, time, touch_id, sx, sy);
+	grab->interface->down(grab, time, point);
+
 	if (wl_list_length(&seat->touch_state.touch_points) == 1) {
 		seat->touch_state.grab_serial = wl_display_get_serial(seat->display);
 		seat->touch_state.grab_id = touch_id;
@@ -988,12 +993,14 @@ void wlr_seat_touch_notify_up(struct wlr_seat *seat, uint32_t time,
 		return;
 	}
 
-	grab->interface->up(grab, time, touch_id);
+	grab->interface->up(grab, time, point);
+
 	touch_point_destroy(point);
 }
 
-void wlr_seat_touch_notify_motion(struct wlr_seat *seat, uint32_t time,
-		int32_t touch_id, double sx, double sy) {
+void wlr_seat_touch_notify_motion(struct wlr_seat *seat,
+		struct wlr_surface *surface, uint32_t time, int32_t touch_id, double sx,
+		double sy) {
 	clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, &seat->last_event);
 	struct wlr_seat_touch_grab *grab = seat->touch_state.grab;
 	struct wlr_touch_point *point = wlr_seat_touch_get_point(seat, touch_id);
@@ -1005,7 +1012,7 @@ void wlr_seat_touch_notify_motion(struct wlr_seat *seat, uint32_t time,
 	point->sx = sx;
 	point->sy = sy;
 
-	grab->interface->motion(grab, time, touch_id, sx, sy);
+	grab->interface->motion(grab, time, point);
 }
 
 void wlr_seat_touch_send_down(struct wlr_seat *seat,